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Posted by Merijn on August 23, 192001 at 09:26:36: In Reply to: Re: About VideoTapes off the show !! posted by Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes on August 21, 192001 at 14:06:18:

Hello,

You see I have a Apple Macintosh (the best computer for audio and video. ItƒGs not for nothing that in
studios and DTP offices they use Mac).

The Mac OS file system does NOT have the 2 gig filesize restriction.
Just recently I have acquired a DVD-R writer and I am currently experimenting
with putting analog video onto DVD. I have a lot of old TV series, private shot videos
etc that I want to transfer to DVD.

Just two days ago I have succesfully made my first dvd video.
It looks great. It contains 90 minutes of footage, menus, chapter indexes,
a slide show.
All in a quality that is equal to the original footage on tape.

I know that in the next years I will be transferring stuff to dvd.
Among these will be Australian series such as Ocean girl. If they are not
going to be released on DVD that is.

Peter is right concerning the copyrights. It is not allowed. And even trading
a copy under fair use is illegal.
However it is also correct that if they are not going to put it out someone
one day will put it onto tape or dvd.
Personally I thinki either the company should bring it out or they should
stop complaining if copies are made.
People want to see the series and people who didnƒGt have the chance to
see it should get that chance.

Anyway, back to making a dvd.
Peter is right that you need a big harddisk for this.
I am capturing in PAL VHS and this requires a disk that can keep up with 8 MB per second!
Multiply that to 90 minutes and you get a wobbing 50 gigabyte!
Add to that that you need harddisk space for render files (if you made changes
to the image size (which is necesary as the format for dvd is different then
a normal 4:3 TV).
Add to that the time and space for mpeg encoding.
Peter is again right that it takes such a long time.
I am happy I got a pretty quick Macintosh and I can render 52 minutes
of video in 12 hours!! (do the format change that is)
And that is actually quick.
Add another 4 hours for mpeg encoding the video.

So all in all to make a dvd is a lot of work.
There is a couple of hours extra for making the menu and chapter index.

In short: yes it is possible and yes people can do it right now!
But it will be a while before I will put Ocean girl on dvd since I still hope
that such a succesfull TV series will appear on dvd with extraƒGs etc.

regards
Merijn

PS: I am always open for thoughts, ideas, discussion on video etc.
(evdmeer@mac.com)

: Yes, there are now filters to make ActiveMovie understand YUY2
: captures. But the 2 GB file size limit remains, except under
: NT based Windozes with NTFS or Linux with XFS/ReiserFS. But
: the driver support for capturing cards in the traditional Windows is
: still surpreme.

: : About the copyright, i read that Disney Channel bought the series (or
: : license), that must mean they can "air" it any time they want to, and you
: : can see it; it's more or less the same as you taping it !!
: : Assuming everybody would do it, there is no logical reason, not to be
: : able to trade missed episodes;

: That might seem to be right, however only from a naive point of view.
: If you copy something and trade it and if you don't have a license to
: do that, it's simply not allowed. Otherwise it would be very hard
: to distinguish fans exchanging copies and professional pirates who
: don't know what they copy but only how much money they can earn
: with it.

: However a certain amount of fair use and exchanging copies between
: fans is often tolerated by authors, because they understand the issue.

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    : Hello,

    : You see I have a Apple Macintosh (the best computer for audio and video. ItƒGs not for nothing that in
    : studios and DTP offices they use Mac).

    : The Mac OS file system does NOT have the 2 gig filesize restriction.
    : Just recently I have acquired a DVD-R writer and I am currently experimenting
    : with putting analog video onto DVD. I have a lot of old TV series, private shot videos
    : etc that I want to transfer to DVD.

    : Just two days ago I have succesfully made my first dvd video.
    : It looks great. It contains 90 minutes of footage, menus, chapter indexes,
    : a slide show.
    : All in a quality that is equal to the original footage on tape.

    : I know that in the next years I will be transferring stuff to dvd.
    : Among these will be Australian series such as Ocean girl. If they are not
    : going to be released on DVD that is.

    : Peter is right concerning the copyrights. It is not allowed. And even trading
    : a copy under fair use is illegal.
    : However it is also correct that if they are not going to put it out someone
    : one day will put it onto tape or dvd.
    : Personally I thinki either the company should bring it out or they should
    : stop complaining if copies are made.
    : People want to see the series and people who didnƒGt have the chance to
    : see it should get that chance.

    : Anyway, back to making a dvd.
    : Peter is right that you need a big harddisk for this.
    : I am capturing in PAL VHS and this requires a disk that can keep up with 8 MB per second!
    : Multiply that to 90 minutes and you get a wobbing 50 gigabyte!
    : Add to that that you need harddisk space for render files (if you made changes
    : to the image size  (which is necesary as the format for dvd is different then
    : a normal 4:3 TV).
    : Add to that the time and space for mpeg encoding.
    : Peter is again right that it takes such a long time.
    : I am happy I got a pretty quick Macintosh and I can render 52 minutes
    : of video in 12 hours!! (do the format change that is)
    : And that is actually quick.
    : Add another 4 hours for mpeg encoding the video.

    : So all in all to make a dvd is a lot of work.
    : There is a couple of hours extra for making the menu and chapter index.

    : In short: yes it is possible and yes people can do it right now!
    : But it will be a while before I will put Ocean girl on dvd since I still hope
    : that such a succesfull TV series will appear on dvd with extraƒGs etc.

    : regards
    : Merijn

    : PS: I am always open for thoughts, ideas, discussion on video etc.
    : (evdmeer@mac.com)

    : : Yes, there are now filters to make ActiveMovie understand YUY2
    : : captures. But the 2 GB file size limit remains, except under
    : : NT based Windozes with NTFS or Linux with XFS/ReiserFS. But
    : : the driver support for capturing cards in the traditional Windows is
    : : still surpreme.

    : : : About the copyright, i read that Disney Channel bought the series (or
    : : : license), that must mean they can "air" it any time they want to, and you
    : : : can see it; it's more or less the same as you taping it !!
    : : : Assuming everybody would do it, there is no logical reason, not to be
    : : : able to trade missed episodes;

    : : That might seem to be right, however only from a naive point of view.
    : : If you copy something and trade it and if you don't have a license to
    : : do that, it's simply not allowed. Otherwise it would be very hard
    : : to distinguish fans exchanging copies and professional pirates who
    : : don't know what they copy but only how much money they can earn
    : : with it.

    : : However a certain amount of fair use and exchanging copies between
    : : fans is often tolerated by authors, because they understand the issue.

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