## Re: OG chatrooms

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Posted by Savant on September 08, 1999 at 04:54:12: In Reply to: Re: OG chatrooms posted by Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes on September 07, 1999 at 11:39:16:

: > There is always the possibility that you can lose a channel, regardless of
: > any bots or server control. The chances are slim but they do exist. The
: > bottom line is that channels are assigned on a first come first server basis,
: > and if you don't keep the channel active at all times you'll lose it.

: What I said was that on some IRC networks, it IS possible to own a channel.
: And that's completely correct, read below.

Look Peter, I'm not disputing that a person can take 'control' over a given
channel, but there is no way to 'OWN' it. Let's say by whatever set of
circumstances that you accidently lost control of the channel, and someone else
took control over it. Would you be able to say "This is MY channel, I own it,
so leave and let me take control of it again." to them? Sure you could, but
they could ignore you completely and fear no reprisals.

The bottom line is that at present, no one can OWN an IRC channel. You can
have control over it, you can occupy it, and you can put a bot on it, but it
doesn't mean you 'OWN' the channel.

We can look at it another way as well.

Let's say you own a house. If you leave your house, and come back to find
someone else in it, you can pull out your deed and say "I own this house"
after which you can kick them out. THAT is ownership. If you logon one day
and find that someone else has control of the channel, you can't do anything
about it. You can complain, but there is no rule that can FORCE the other
person to leave.

So with all due respect, my point still stands. You can control a channel,
you can occupy a channel, but you can't OWN it. There is no Internet
registration company that sells IRC channel registrations, and there is no
way to guarantee that you will retain control of it. That is the difference.

Regards,

Savant.

Follow-up Messages:

- Re: OG chatrooms Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes 10:20:36 9/08/99 (4)
  - Re: OG chatrooms Savant 15:06:02 9/08/99 (3)
    - Re: OG chatrooms Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes 15:29:32 9/08/99 (2)
      - Re: OG chatrooms Savant 17:52:15 9/09/99 (1)
        - Re: OG chatrooms Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes 15:13:44 9/10/99 (0)

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    : : > There is always the possibility that you can lose a channel, regardless of
    : : > any bots or server control. The chances are slim but they do exist. The
    : : > bottom line is that channels are assigned on a first come first server basis,
    : : > and if you don't keep the channel active at all times you'll lose it.

    : : What I said was that on some IRC networks, it IS possible to own a channel.
    : : And that's completely correct, read below.

    : Look Peter, I'm not disputing that a person can take 'control' over a given
    : channel, but there is no way to 'OWN' it.  Let's say by whatever set of
    : circumstances that you accidently lost control of the channel, and someone else
    : took control over it.  Would you be able to say "This is MY channel, I own it,
    : so leave and let me take control of it again." to them?  Sure you could, but
    : they could ignore you completely and fear no reprisals.

    : The bottom line is that at present, no one can OWN an IRC channel.  You can
    : have control over it, you can occupy it, and you can put a bot on it, but it
    : doesn't mean you 'OWN' the channel.

    : We can look at it another way as well.

    : Let's say you own a house.  If you leave your house, and come back to find
    : someone else in it, you can pull out your deed and say "I own this house"
    : after which you can kick them out.  THAT is ownership.  If you logon one day
    : and find that someone else has control of the channel, you can't do anything
    : about it.  You can complain, but there is no rule that can FORCE the other
    : person to leave.

    : So with all due respect, my point still stands.  You can control a channel,
    : you can occupy a channel, but you can't OWN it.  There is no Internet
    : registration company that sells IRC channel registrations, and there is no
    : way to guarantee that you will retain control of it.  That is the difference.

    : Regards,

    : Savant.

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