## Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE

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Posted by Xanatic on December 06, 1998 at 09:07:48: In Reply to: Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE posted by No.2Pencil on December 06, 1998 at 00:17:56:

Greetings OG-freaks

No.2 Pencil wrote:

: Dear Xanatic,

: I'm pleased that you are a down to Earth person, and that you question :things.

Well, being sceptical is the only way to be :)

(I'm not being sarcastic.) The problem between you and Teri is that she is talking about a very complex truth that she, understandably, doesn't fully uderstand. She just has a little understanding that she got from the Bible, but as far as the exact science involved with the reality of the one known as "God", she doesn't know. So to one such as yourself, who questions things, Teri sounds silly.

Hmm, sometimes itīs hard not to laugh at ppl who are very religious.

Like most things, the belief in a supreme being, even though every culture has tried to make this supreme being of
their own culture,race,etc...

Yeah, I remember a story I read once I had to write an essay. It was about a boat with chinese ppl which stranded in the western Denmark. The danes thought it was sad for the chinese that they looked like they did, since "they hadnīt been created in Godīs image". So they didnīt think they were real humans. Did I mention that it is an authentic story?

:actually has it's orgins in a scientific principle.
:When something is explained scientifically, it is impossible to argue with :the facts. So here are the facts.......For everything that exist in the :universe, there is an opposite.

No, thatīs not true, usually "opposites" is a man-made term. Thereīs nothing scientific that says everything has an opposite.

If there's a red there's a green

Those are only opposites when it comes to photography. They are just colors with different wavelength, not opposites. More like two of the same.

if there's a blue there's an orange if there's a yellow there's a purple if there's a black there's a white,

Yeah, okay black and white are opposites, but the only real ones.

a radiating a reflecting,

They arenīt opposites either, a radiating body would usually also be a bit reflecting, and the reflecting body would, unless itīs temp was at the absolute zero, emit infrared light.

a male a female

Thereīs very little difference between a male and a female, theyīre not opposites. That would be like saying the opposite of a horse is a cow. Sure theyīre different, but theyīre not opposites.

,a north a south a east a west,

Also man-made things, thereīs no law of Nature which says there are four different directions on a planet. What about North-West or East-East-South?

a positive number a negative number, a positive charge a negative charge,

Once again you stumpled over real opposites.

a love a hate,a happy a sad,

There are different kinds of love, thereīs not just one. Just because you love your pet-mouse doesnīt mean you want to sleep with it. And emotions are only chemical reactions in your brain, nothing more.

a organic an inorganic,

An organic is just something that contains carbon, thereīs nothing magical about that.

a conception a death,

I donīt know what conception is, but we have no real definitions of life and death. You could say that death is a pile of bricks, and life is a house. But it would be wrong to say that a house and a pile of bricks are opposites.

a day a night,

Hmm, thereīs no border between day and night. They donīt really exist those two. Wether it is day or night is just a question of where you are positioned on Earth. And they arenīt opposites, since they are kind of two degrees of the same thing.

a sun a moon,

One of them is a gigantic hot burning ball of Hydrogen and Helium, the other one is a small cold piece of rock. What makes them opposites? Thatīs like the cow and horse again. They are two different things.

a growing up a growing old,a light a darkness,a truth a lie,a parasite a host,a murderer a healer, a work a rest, a pain and a comforter, a coward a bold, a gravity a weightlessness,

Weightlessness might not exist.

a teacher a student,a parralel a perpendicular, a addition a subtraction,a multiplication a division,life that takes in carbondioxide and gives off oxygen a life that takes in oxygen and gives off carbondioxide, a inhale a exhale, a phisical need a emotional need, a art and a science,

Cow and horse again

a mortal a immortal,

Not the big difference

an attraction a repulstion........The facts tell us that we live in a universe based on balance, a set of two, one on the left and one on the right, perfect balance.

Nope.

The universe is perfectly balanced, this is fact. It is also fact that we live in a relam of science. The function of science is to meet your phisical needs. Your nose,nose :hairs,eyes,eyelashes,ears,skin pigment,colon,blood,teeth,etc.were not created so you could look "studly". They all have something to do with meeting your phisical needs and keeping you alive. This is a fact,and is the very nature of this realm,everything hear is made for phisical survival the fish, the trees...everything. Everything in this relam was made for scientific reasons to meet your physical needs.

Donīt confuse science with Nature. The universe that we live in is controlled by Nature, not science. Science is what we use to study Nature. Nature is the rules of the game, and science is what we use in order to find out what these rules are so we can win the game.

I say THIS realm because as I showed earlier, this is a universe of perfect and constant balance. Therefore we can deduce that since there is a realm of science which meets physical needs and produces mortal life, there must also exist a realm of art which meet your emotional needs and produces immortal life.

Hmm, far out. In the 17th century I believe it was, many ppl believed in something called Dualism. That there existed two worlds, a physical and a spiritual one. I think you should check it out. Maybe you were just born 200 years too late.

Where things are created based on how they look, in order to best serve the emotions. We can also deduce that since we know the mortal scientificly based life can at times be seen as something beautiful and have an affect on your emotions as to produce desire, the artistically based immortal lifeform also accidently crosses over and is able to cause that being of art to see,hear,smell,touch,and taste,even though it is art and does not have scientific eyes with pupils etc that are made to meet physical needs.

Emotions and the physical world are not two different things. Emotions are simply chemicals and electrons in your body. Being in love is about the same as eating chocolate. Taking pills with certain chemicals can make you happy or give you selfesteem. The way your body looks is to fulfill physical needs, but so is your emotions. You have pain so you will know if something is wrong with your body. You have love so your genes wont disappear but be reproduced. You have fear to prevent you from jumping out over a cliff and be killed so your genes would be spilled.

The best example of a being of art would be a Toon. A toon sees but it doesn't have eyes, it hears but it doesn't have ears, it is art created for the purpose to affect your emotions based on how that particular Toon was drawn,nor does a Toon age.

Look more closely at the toon and you will see that he is made of atoms and molecules, not fairy-dust.

Now that is Fact. Whether or not his name is "God", "Allah" ,or wears sandals and old timey outfits we don't know unless we see him, live and in person. But we do know of the age of the immortal, for to be immortal means alive forever, perfect,not whithering,no decay, and to be young is to be perfect, flawless.

If being young is being flawless then why do teenagers spend so much money on beauty-products to remove pimples and such? :)

So we can deduce that he is like an immortal teenager/boy. That much we know. Although my own personal opinion is that since he is youthful, being that he's immortal and perfect, I doubt he wears something like a robe and sandals. An Immortal boy would probably want to live out every boy's dream which is to be like Superman.

So God wears a cape and has his Y-fronts on the outside of his clothes? Not how you usually picture him. :) Actually being a Superman is only a human boys dream. A god would not want to be a policeman or fireman, he would have divine thoughts.

You may disagree with my own personal opinions, but as a down to Earth person, someone who questions things, you can not argue with the facts.

Yeah, but even though facts are facts we may have gotten the wrong idea about them. You seem to.

I am a thinker and one who questions things. And my search for truth has lead me to the fact that there is in fact, an immortal being that could fit the description of the one Teri calls "God".

Hmm, you better start questioning again. If there is a God then why is there evil in the world? Why does God in the bible "demand the Sun to stop itīs orbit around the Earth"? How come God lied about Evolution, and claimed that we originated from two nudists? The Bible, or any other creation myth for that matter, contradicts itself and the knowledge we have now. Even though it would be cool if he was there, there is no God.
Xanatic

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- Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE No.2Pencil 12:52:20 12/06/98 (20)
  - Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE(esp. for Pencil and Xanatic) Teri 03:14:57 12/08/98 (19)
    - Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE(esp. for Pencil and Xanatic) No.2Pencil 16:12:23 12/09/98 (18)
      - Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE(esp. for Pencil and Xanatic) Xanatic 10:20:32 12/10/98 (17)
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              - Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE Xanatic 08:30:37 12/11/98 (12)
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    : Greetings OG-freaks

    : No.2 Pencil wrote:

    : : Dear Xanatic,

    : : I'm pleased that you are a down to Earth person, and that you question :things.

    : Well, being sceptical is the only way to be :)

    : (I'm not being sarcastic.) The problem between you and Teri is that she is talking about a very complex truth that she, understandably, doesn't fully uderstand. She just has a little understanding that she got from the Bible, but as far as the exact science involved with the reality of the one known as "God", she doesn't know. So to one such as yourself, who questions things, Teri sounds silly.

    : Hmm, sometimes itīs hard not to laugh at ppl who are very religious.

    : Like most things, the belief in a supreme being, even though every culture has tried to make this supreme being of
    : their own culture,race,etc...

    : Yeah, I remember a story I read once I had to write an essay. It was about a boat with chinese ppl which stranded in the western Denmark. The danes thought it was sad for the chinese that they looked like they did, since "they hadnīt been created in Godīs image". So they didnīt think they were real humans. Did I mention that it is an authentic story?

    : :actually has it's orgins in a scientific principle.
    : :When something is explained scientifically, it is impossible to argue with :the facts. So here are the facts.......For everything that exist in the :universe, there is an opposite.

    : No, thatīs not true, usually "opposites" is a man-made term. Thereīs nothing scientific that says everything has an opposite.

    : If there's a red there's a green

    : Those are only opposites when it comes to photography. They are just colors with different wavelength, not opposites. More like two of the same.

    :  if there's a blue there's an orange if there's a yellow there's a purple if there's a black there's a white,

    : Yeah, okay black and white are opposites, but the only real ones.

    : a radiating a reflecting,

    : They arenīt opposites either, a radiating body would usually also be a bit reflecting, and the reflecting body would, unless itīs temp was at the absolute zero, emit infrared light.

    : a male a female

    : Thereīs very little difference between a male and a female, theyīre not opposites. That would be like saying the opposite of a horse is a cow. Sure theyīre different, but theyīre not opposites.

    : ,a north a south a east a west,

    : Also man-made things, thereīs no law of Nature which says there are four different directions on a planet. What about North-West or East-East-South?

    : a positive number a negative number, a positive charge a negative charge,

    : Once again you stumpled over real opposites.

    : a love a hate,a happy a sad,

    : There are different kinds of love, thereīs not just one. Just because you love your pet-mouse doesnīt mean you want to sleep with it. And emotions are only chemical reactions in your brain, nothing more.

    : a organic an inorganic,

    : An organic is just something that contains carbon, thereīs nothing magical about that.

    : a conception a death,

    : I donīt know what conception is, but we have no real definitions of life and death. You could say that death is a pile of bricks, and life is a house. But it would be wrong to say that a house and a pile of bricks are opposites.

    : a day a night,

    : Hmm, thereīs no border between day and night. They donīt really exist those two. Wether it is day or night is just a question of where you are positioned on Earth. And they arenīt opposites, since they are kind of two degrees of the same thing.

    : a sun a moon,

    : One of them is a gigantic hot burning ball of Hydrogen and Helium, the other one is a small cold piece of rock. What makes them opposites? Thatīs like the cow and horse again. They are two different things.

    : a growing up a growing old,a light a darkness,a truth a lie,a parasite a host,a murderer a healer, a work a rest, a pain and a comforter, a coward a bold, a gravity a weightlessness,

    : Weightlessness might not exist.

    : a teacher a student,a parralel a perpendicular, a addition a subtraction,a multiplication a division,life that takes in carbondioxide and gives off oxygen a life that takes in oxygen and gives off carbondioxide, a inhale a exhale, a phisical need a emotional need, a art and a science,

    : Cow and horse again

    : a mortal a immortal,

    : Not the big difference

    : an attraction a repulstion........The facts tell us that we live in a universe based on balance, a set of two, one on the left and one on the right, perfect balance.

    : Nope.

    : The universe is perfectly balanced, this is fact. It is also fact that we live in a relam of science. The function of science is to meet your phisical needs. Your nose,nose :hairs,eyes,eyelashes,ears,skin pigment,colon,blood,teeth,etc.were not created so you could look "studly". They all have something to do with meeting your phisical needs and keeping you alive. This is a fact,and is the very nature of this realm,everything hear is made for phisical survival the fish, the trees...everything. Everything in this relam was made for scientific reasons to meet your physical needs.

    : Donīt confuse science with Nature. The universe that we live in is controlled by Nature, not science. Science is what we use to study Nature. Nature is the rules of the game, and science is what we use in order to find out what these rules are so we can win the game.

    : I say THIS realm because as I showed earlier, this is a universe of perfect and constant balance. Therefore we can deduce that since there is a realm of science which meets physical needs and produces mortal life, there must also exist a realm of art which meet your emotional needs and produces immortal life.

    : Hmm, far out. In the 17th century I believe it was, many ppl believed in something called Dualism. That there existed two worlds, a physical and a spiritual one. I think you should check it out. Maybe you were just born 200 years too late.

    : Where things are created based on how they look, in order to best serve the emotions. We can also deduce that since we know the mortal scientificly based life can at times be seen as something beautiful and have an affect on your emotions as to produce desire, the artistically based immortal lifeform also accidently crosses over and is able to cause that being of art to see,hear,smell,touch,and taste,even though it is art and does not have scientific eyes with pupils etc that are made to meet physical needs.

    : Emotions and the physical world are not two different things. Emotions are simply chemicals and electrons in your body. Being in love is about the same as eating chocolate. Taking pills with certain chemicals can make you happy or give you selfesteem. The way your body looks is to fulfill physical needs, but so is your emotions. You have pain so you will know if something is wrong with your body. You have love so your genes wont disappear but be reproduced. You have fear to prevent you from jumping out over a cliff and be killed so your genes would be spilled.

    : The best example of a being of art would be a Toon. A toon sees but it doesn't have eyes, it hears but it doesn't have ears, it is art created for the purpose to affect your emotions based on how that particular Toon was drawn,nor does a Toon age.

    : Look more closely at the toon and you will see that he is made of atoms and molecules, not fairy-dust.

    : Now that is Fact. Whether or not his name is "God", "Allah" ,or wears sandals and old timey outfits we don't know unless we see him, live and in person. But we do know of the age of the immortal, for to be immortal means alive forever, perfect,not whithering,no decay, and to be young is to be perfect, flawless.

    : If being young is being flawless then why do teenagers spend so much money on beauty-products to remove pimples and such? :)

    : So we can deduce that he is like an immortal teenager/boy. That much we know. Although my own personal opinion is that since he is youthful, being that he's immortal and perfect, I doubt he wears something like a robe and sandals. An Immortal boy would probably want to live out every boy's dream which is to be like Superman.

    : So God wears a cape and has his Y-fronts on the outside of his clothes? Not how you usually picture him. :) Actually being a Superman is only a human boys dream. A god would not want to be a policeman or fireman, he would have divine thoughts.

    : You may disagree with my own personal opinions, but as a down to Earth person, someone who questions things, you can not argue with the facts.

    : Yeah, but even though facts are facts we may have gotten the wrong idea about them. You seem to.

    : I am a thinker and one who questions things. And my search for truth has lead me to the fact that there is in fact, an immortal being that could fit the description of the one Teri calls "God".

    : Hmm, you better start questioning again. If there is a God then why is there evil in the world? Why does God in the bible "demand the Sun to stop itīs orbit around the Earth"? How come God lied about Evolution, and claimed that we originated from two nudists? The Bible, or any other creation myth for that matter, contradicts itself and the knowledge we have now. Even though it would be cool if he was there, there is no God.
    :
    : Xanatic

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