## Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE

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Posted by No.2Pencil on March 09, 1999 at 22:29:28: In Reply to: Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE posted by Savant on March 09, 1999 at 00:21:58:

Last time Savant Wrote:
: Oh I don't hate you at all, I feel sorry for you. Your life is so devoid of meaning that you have to grasp at a fictional character for fulfillment.
: Let's look at a post you made on November 02, 1998:

: It took a while, but you finally (I believe) came around to accepting that Marzena is not 'Neri' in disguise. Marzena is an individual, and a very intelligent one at that. She is NOT like 'Neri' in the way you hope, and that must crush you, since you still think that 'Neri' exists somehow.

: Hehehehe... you're funny. Do you say this to everyone who disagrees with you?

: It's obvious that you are unable to comprehend copyright law, so I won't debate the issue with you. You are not talking about creating something like the image of "Neri" you are talking about replicating that image, and the way in which it was used. I could quote legal references, but you would likely ignore them.

: Unlike you, I believe in the protection of intellectual materials. In Mensa, members are constantly required to defend their intellectual property, and it is a trend that isn't diminishing. It's easy for you to steal someone else's creation, and this is usually what people do that don't have the ability to create something original themselves.

: Why don't you make something of your own, instead of stealing from others.

: I have no respect for people like you that steal from others.

: Oh? I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that those shows had characters that came from outer space. Perhaps you are mistaken.

: I'm not even going to bother, as you obviously don't have the intelligence to understand the differences.

: Do you really want me to post quotes from you that prove this point? You are hooked on the character of Neri. Hooked BEYOND that of a 'normal' individual.

: Oh really...?

: A friend that doesn't exist... hmmmm...

: Marzena is really Neri? She just happened to be picked out of hundreds of girls, and was given a script, when she was really playing 'herself'?

: Oh please.

: Now I especially LOVED this clip! When I brought it up at a Mensa regional gathering, they HOWLED with laughter! I still laugh at that one, and I must admit, I am not easy to amuse.

: Here was my response to that clip...

: [temple? ... and I thought you said you don't 'worship' the show...?]

: My remark on metaphysics still stands. You would be wise to educate yourself in this regard.

: Don't try and weasel yourself out of this... I can post more, but the point is already made. You WORSHIP the show, in specific, the character of 'Neri'. It is plain and simple to see that.

: You are the type of person that 'tv & movie stars' are scared of. The 'fanatics' who believe that the actors are the character they play, and who can't understand that it is just a 'show' and is not real.

: Please spare me your petty attempts at insults. It makes you look like a child.

: I am saving more of your clippings to bring to the next Mensa regional gathering, since I know they will be good for more laughs! You really think you're smart don't you? You don't have a clue, and you never will.

: Get over it.

: No, that is wrong.

: God: 1. A being conceived of as possessing supernatural power, and to be
: propitiated by sacrifice, worship, etc. 2. The Supreme Being; the eternal and infinite Spirit, the Creator, and the Sovereign of the universe. 3. A person deified and honored as the chief good; 4. Figuratively applied to one who wields great or despotic power.

: The key here is that "god" refers to SOMEONE, a being or person. It is a NOUN, and not an adjective.

: Well YOU may define it as "God-like", since YOU worship this show. I haven't seen anyone else act as you have in this regard. Would you like to deny that you "worship" this show again?

: ...but wait, there's more...!

: Please, spare me. Your egotistical ramblings have no value to anyone.

: Why don't you just 'take on' reality, and stop living in a fantasy land.

: That could be true of an 'animated' series, but you can NOT duplicate a 'real life' event by simply replicating the pixel formations. Perhaps you believe you can replicate 'Neri' in your mind, and maybe you believe that Ocean Girl does "challenge existing theories of the universe" in some way.

: However, just because you believe it, that doesn't make it real.

: The sooner you learn that, the sooner you can join the real world.

: Regards,

: Savant

Dear Savant,

Well it's nice to know we can always count on you to check spelling. Then again spelling is easy for a DICKtionary like yourself. Opps! Did I just misspell that too? I also would like to thank you for the trip down memorylane because my writings show I have balls the size of Jupitor, that my mind is such a tremendous force when I speak my words are propelled far beyond the confines of this board reaching all kinds of people and so alive that they divide and multiply as I am repeatedly and numerously quoted like no other person here. You can not have something you've never had before, if you always do the things you've done before. If you want to discover unknown truths you have to be bold enough to explore ideas that have never been explored before. It is impossible to discover something new, and at the same time don't think outside the boundarys of what is already known. The key word in the Nov.2,1998 quote is "maybe". Which means I don't know it to be fact, but since I sincerely want to know the truth of the existance of a real Neri, I'll consider it as one POSSIBILITY. For the copyright law...You say I'm replicating the image of Neri. It is impossible to prove that in a court of law. "Any likeness to persons live or dead was not intentional and is purely coincidental." The "reality" is many people look SIMILAR ENOUGH to Marzena it is impossible to know and prove my real intentions. My personal idea for the story differs from the original OG. Why would I create a 3D model of Jason? I don't love him. And you can't have two roosters in the hen house. It's got to be me buddy, numero uno. Plus my Neri lives like a Princess, not on some cold, primitive island. So obviously I "have the ability" to create something original. I'm also smart enough not to mess with that wich is already perfect. Next I said the movies "THE BLUE LAGOON" and "SPLASH" had a SIMILAR storyline to Oceangirl. You may spell, but your comprehension sucks. Splash goes something like this...Little boy meets girl under the water from the sea...woman from the sea knows nothing of the ways of this world... woman is captured by the 'bad doctor' and studied. Man rescues her, they live happily ever after. The Blue lagoon goes...a little boy and girl are left on an Island by themselves with no adults, grow up on this isolated island with primitive lifestyle. Sound familiar? As for the other things do you have the intelligence to see the simalaritys? In Deep Impact the Earth is threatened by meteors and is saved by brave U.S. astronauts. In Armageddon the Earth is threatened by meteors and is saved by brave U.S. astronauts. In Antz,talking computer generated ants live underground, and one goes out into the great big world and comes back to save the day. In bugs life talking computer generated ants live underground, and one goes out into the great big world and comes back to save the day. Heafcliff is a fat orange cat who constantly picks on the other animals. Garfield is a fat orange cat who constantly picks on Odie(a dog). Plasticman is a superhero who wears a bright outfit,was a regular guy until he gained the power to shape and stretch his body at will while his outfit also stretches with his body. Mr. Fantastic is a superhero who wears a bright outfit, was a regular guy until he gained the power to shape and stretch his body at will while his outfit also stretches with his body. You certainly are paranoid to attempt to label my Dec.1, 1998 message negative. I am stating what I really want. If wanting to be forever young is bad that means all these face creams that women use is bad to "reverse the aging process". And what the hell is wrong with wanting to meet a real live Neri. The concept or idea of 'Neri' I do think of as a friend. I wouldn't say I dislike her. Characters such as "Superman" and "Neri" I believe are real somewhere in the Universe somewhere in time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with believeing that. No more wrong than someone believing a man died on a cross 2,000 years ago, and is coming back. Why don't you say something about that "mr.reality"?
A temple is a place serving as the focus of something highly valued. But of course you being paranoid, you would foolishly accuse me of worship. Not only does your comprehension suck, it blows. I reffered to NOREO's site as a temple because of the care and effort he obviously put into it, the galleys dedicated to her, with the whole site having one theme....Oceangirl. As for Oceangirl and Spellbinder they do both portray themes that go outside the traditional views of the Universe. Maybe you need to start with "Where's Waldo?" books and work your way up. As for the true definition of God...I don't know what religion you are ,but with "God" everyone's got their own definition of what it means to them. So get that dictionary the hell out my face. Lastly....I assume when you say 'animated'series you are speaking of traditional hand made drawings. However I am not speaking of drawings. The software I use such as Ray Dream Studio 5 is so sophisticated, that the Images rendered appear to be photograps or as you called it 'real life'. In addition things created in Ray Dream can be animated. It is a fact it is immpossible to tell just by looking whether or not something was created in cyberspace or 'reallife'. I suggest you go to the 3D Cafe link I left and check it out. To any of you interested in making things in 3D...even Neri...don't let the likes of Savant discourage you. Not only will the original seed 'Oceangirl' develop into a new creation, you'll have lots of fun talking about it. To Savant....I'm not trying to "weasel" out of anything. I don't have to. If it was an a$$ whipping on the board you wanted, then an a$$ whipping you have recieved.....Oh! And you can quote me on that.

Sincerely,

No.2Pencil

P.S. Checkmate.

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    : Last time Savant Wrote:
    : : Oh I don't hate you at all, I feel sorry for you.  Your life is so devoid of meaning that you have to grasp at a fictional character for fulfillment.
    : : Let's look at a post you made on November 02, 1998:

    : : It took a while, but you finally (I believe) came around to accepting that Marzena is not 'Neri' in disguise.  Marzena is an individual, and a very intelligent one at that.  She is NOT like 'Neri' in the way you hope, and that must crush you, since you still think that 'Neri' exists somehow.

    : : Hehehehe...  you're funny.  Do you say this to everyone who disagrees with you?

    : : It's obvious that you are unable to comprehend copyright law, so I won't debate the issue with you.  You are not talking about creating something like the image of "Neri" you are talking about replicating that image, and the way in which it was used.  I could quote legal references, but you would likely ignore them.

    : : Unlike you, I believe in the protection of intellectual materials.  In Mensa, members are constantly required to defend their intellectual property, and it is a trend that isn't diminishing.  It's easy for you to steal someone else's creation, and this is usually what people do that don't have the ability to create something original themselves.

    : : Why don't you make something of your own, instead of stealing from others.

    : : I have no respect for people like you that steal from others.

    : : Oh?  I'm sorry, but I didn't realize that those shows had characters that came from outer space.  Perhaps you are mistaken.

    : : I'm not even going to bother, as you obviously don't have the intelligence to understand the differences.

    : : Do you really want me to post quotes from you that prove this point?  You are hooked on the character of Neri.  Hooked BEYOND that of a 'normal' individual.

    : : Oh really...?

    : : A friend that doesn't exist...  hmmmm...

    : : Marzena is really Neri?  She just happened to be picked out of hundreds of girls, and was given a script, when she was really playing 'herself'?

    : : Oh please.

    : : Now I especially LOVED this clip!  When I brought it up at a Mensa regional gathering, they HOWLED with laughter!  I still laugh at that one, and I must admit, I am not easy to amuse.

    : : Here was my response to that clip...

    : : [temple? ... and I thought you said you don't 'worship' the show...?]

    : : My remark on metaphysics still stands.  You would be wise to educate yourself in this regard.

    : : Don't try and weasel yourself out of this...  I can post more, but the point is already made.  You WORSHIP the show, in specific, the character of 'Neri'.  It is plain and simple to see that.

    : : You are the type of person that 'tv & movie stars' are scared of.  The 'fanatics' who believe that the actors are the character they play, and who can't understand that it is just a 'show' and is not real.

    : : Please spare me your petty attempts at insults.  It makes you look like a child.

    : : I am saving more of your clippings to bring to the next Mensa regional gathering, since I know they will be good for more laughs!  You really think you're smart don't you?  You don't have a clue, and you never will.

    : : Get over it.

    : : No, that is wrong.

    : : God: 1. A being conceived of as possessing supernatural power, and to be
    : : propitiated by sacrifice, worship, etc.  2. The Supreme Being; the eternal and infinite Spirit, the Creator, and the Sovereign of the universe.  3. A person deified and honored as the chief good; 4. Figuratively applied to one who wields great or despotic power.

    : : The key here is that "god" refers to SOMEONE, a being or person.  It is a NOUN, and not an adjective.

    : : Well YOU may define it as "God-like", since YOU worship this show.  I haven't seen anyone else act as you have in this regard.  Would you like to deny that you "worship" this show again?

    : : ...but wait, there's more...!

    : : Please, spare me.  Your egotistical ramblings have no value to anyone.

    : : Why don't you just 'take on' reality, and stop living in a fantasy land.

    : : That could be true of an 'animated' series, but you can NOT duplicate a 'real life' event by simply replicating the pixel formations.  Perhaps you believe you can replicate 'Neri' in your mind, and maybe you believe that Ocean Girl does "challenge existing theories of the universe" in some way.

    : : However, just because you believe it, that doesn't make it real.

    : : The sooner you learn that, the sooner you can join the real world.

    : : Regards,

    : : Savant

    : Dear Savant,

    : Well it's nice to know we can always count on you to check spelling. Then again spelling is easy for a DICKtionary like yourself. Opps! Did I just misspell that too? I also would like to thank you for the trip down memorylane because my writings show I have balls the size of Jupitor, that my mind is such a tremendous force when I speak my words are propelled far beyond the confines of this board reaching all kinds of people and so alive that they divide and multiply as I am repeatedly and numerously quoted like no other person here. You can not have something you've never had before, if you always do the things you've done before. If you want to discover unknown truths you have to be bold enough to explore ideas that have never been explored before. It is impossible to discover something new, and at the same time don't think outside the boundarys of what is already known. The key word in the Nov.2,1998 quote is "maybe". Which means I don't know it to be fact, but since I sincerely want to know the truth of the existance of a real Neri, I'll consider it as one POSSIBILITY. For the copyright law...You say I'm replicating the image of Neri. It is impossible to prove that in a court of law. "Any likeness to persons live or dead was not intentional and is purely coincidental."  The "reality" is many people look SIMILAR ENOUGH to Marzena it is impossible to know and prove my real intentions. My personal idea for the story differs from the original OG. Why would I create a 3D model of Jason? I don't love him. And you can't have two roosters in the hen house. It's got to be me buddy, numero uno. Plus my Neri lives like a Princess, not on some cold, primitive island. So obviously I "have the ability" to create something original. I'm also smart enough not to mess with that wich is already perfect. Next I said the movies "THE BLUE LAGOON" and "SPLASH" had a SIMILAR storyline to Oceangirl. You may spell, but your comprehension sucks. Splash goes something like this...Little boy meets girl under the water from the sea...woman from the sea knows nothing of the ways of this world... woman is captured by the 'bad doctor' and studied. Man rescues her, they live happily ever after. The Blue lagoon goes...a little boy and girl are left on an Island by themselves with no adults, grow up on this isolated island with primitive lifestyle. Sound familiar? As for the other things do you have the intelligence to see the simalaritys? In Deep Impact the Earth is threatened by meteors and is saved by brave U.S. astronauts. In Armageddon the Earth is threatened by meteors and is saved by brave U.S. astronauts. In Antz,talking computer generated ants live underground, and one goes out into the great big world and comes back to save the day. In bugs life talking computer generated ants live underground, and one goes out into the great big world and comes back to save the day. Heafcliff is a fat orange cat who constantly picks on the other animals. Garfield is a fat orange cat who constantly picks on Odie(a dog). Plasticman is a superhero who wears a bright outfit,was a regular guy until he gained the power to shape and stretch his body at will while his outfit also stretches with his body. Mr. Fantastic is a superhero who wears a bright outfit, was a regular guy until he gained the power to shape and stretch his body at will while his outfit also stretches with his body. You certainly are paranoid to attempt to label my Dec.1, 1998 message negative. I am stating what I really want. If wanting to be forever young is bad that means all these face creams that women use is bad to "reverse the aging process". And what the hell is wrong with wanting to meet a real live Neri. The concept or idea of 'Neri' I do think of as a friend. I wouldn't say I dislike her. Characters such as "Superman" and "Neri" I believe are real somewhere in the Universe somewhere in time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with believeing that. No more wrong than someone believing a man died on a cross 2,000 years ago, and is coming back. Why don't you say something about that "mr.reality"?
    : A temple is a place serving as the focus of something highly valued. But of course you being paranoid, you would foolishly accuse me of worship. Not only does your comprehension suck, it blows. I reffered to NOREO's site as a temple because of the care and effort he obviously put into it, the galleys dedicated to her, with the whole site having one theme....Oceangirl. As for Oceangirl and Spellbinder they do both portray themes that go outside the traditional views of the Universe. Maybe you need to start with "Where's Waldo?" books and work your way up. As for the true definition of God...I don't know what religion you are ,but with "God" everyone's got their own definition of what it means to them. So get that dictionary the hell out my face. Lastly....I assume when you say 'animated'series you are speaking of traditional hand made drawings. However I am not speaking of drawings. The software I use such as Ray Dream Studio 5  is so sophisticated, that the Images rendered appear to be photograps or as you called it 'real life'. In addition things created in Ray Dream can be animated.  It is a fact it is immpossible to tell just by looking whether or not something was created in cyberspace or 'reallife'. I suggest you go to the 3D Cafe link I left and check it out. To any of you interested in making things in 3D...even Neri...don't let the likes of Savant discourage you. Not only will the original seed 'Oceangirl' develop into a new creation, you'll have lots of fun talking about it. To Savant....I'm not trying to "weasel" out of anything. I don't have to. If it was an a$$ whipping on the board you wanted, then an a$$ whipping you have recieved.....Oh! And you can quote me on that.

    : Sincerely,

    : No.2Pencil

    : P.S. Checkmate.

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