## Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE

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Posted by No.2Pencil on March 08, 1999 at 19:06:02: In Reply to: Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE posted by Savant on March 08, 1999 at 11:41:21:

Savant wrote:

: I hate to break it to you, but everything about Ocean Girl is copyright to Jonathan M. Shiff, and you have no right to create her without permission.

: You can do what you like on your own, but you could never 'publish openly' anything you made based on Ocean Girl unless you purchased the rights.

: Did you know that Jonathan M. Shiff was formerly a practicing attorney and solicitor for 14 years before becoming a producer? It's true.

: I do hate to break it to you, but Ocean Girl is just a TV program. We have had this discussion before, but you continue to try and raise 'Neri' to some pseudo "god-like" status. The show is FICTION, so enjoy it, but don't worship it.

: I take offence to your remarks. If anything, you are a hypocrite. The people on my mailing list and the others subscribe because they enjoyed the series and want to discuss it. Little Angel (Patrik) is the perfect example of a decent person who likes the show, and likes to talk about it. He is now co-building a 'Ocean Girl' related web site, and I wish him well.

: People join mailing lists to keep in touch with other people who enjoy the show. Unless you are calling 'talk about Ocean Girl' junk, I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself, and look who is talking...

: No one, except the producer can do that. He is creating an animated series, and work is being done on creating a movie.

: This is where you are really wrong. Unlike you, the people on the mailing lists are interested in things other than Ocean Girl. We have lives to live, things to do, and people to see.

: You don't know ANYONE on the lists well enough to make a statement such as that. The problem is that YOU see "Neri" (a fictional character) as a God, and as a result, you think that this is how everyone else should see it.

: This basically says what I was saying before. You are infatuated with a fictional character in a TV show, and you have the NERVE to call other people 'pitiful'??? I think you need to get some help, either emotional or legal help, since you will end up getting burned one way or another.

: Neri is someone ELSE'S creation, it is NOT your creation. Until you come to grips with that fact you will never understand why you can't have what you want. You can do what you want on your own computers, make up Neri's and such. However NONE of what you make can be shown in public without permission from the producer.

: Marzena Godecki playing the character 'Neri' is gone. Marzena is older now, and there is no way to turn back the hands of time. You need to get over it, and move on in life. You can create a 'Neri' in "cyberspace" but it will be inanimate, and without a soul. So the looks may be there, but that's it. A big part of the character 'Neri' was not her 'looks' but the 'inner self' that was portrayed by her. You can't manufacture that with ANY computer no matter HOW hard you try.

: So no matter what you do, the image will always be a shadow of the original, and nothing more. Remember that.

: Regards,

: Savant

Dear Savant:

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. You must learn to love yourself my friend! I come to share ideas that will inspire exciting creations from OG fans. But I see now that the truth I spoke caused you to have some sort of Mental Bowelmovement. Fascinating! Everything come out OK big guy? I'm sorry to have to tell you this because I know you were really counting on copyrighting your face and then suing everyone who looks like you for stealing your idea, but you can not copyright facial features. Which also means the Neri I create in cyberspace can look like Marzena and be 'published openly' and Jhonny boy can't do squat. Secondly you can't sue someone just for having a similar storyline. If that were the case the makers of the movies "THE BLUE LAGOON" starring Brooke Shields, and "SPLASH" could sue o'l Jhon Jhon. Not to mention the makers of "DEEP IMPACT" sue "ARMAGEDDON", "ANTS" sue "BUG'S LIFE", "HEAFCLIFF" sue "GARFIELD", "PLASTICMAN" sue "MR.FANTASTIC",....clearly the courts would be pact. I don't know where you got the idea that I literally worship a T.V. show. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you are not able to both read and comprehend, rather than assuming you're stupid. However, if the definition of the word God is supreme. And I say Oceangirl ranks supreme among shows. Then technically one could say it is "God-like" among shows. Of course there's nothing wrong with talking about Oceangirl.....unless it's just boring, mindless, chit-chat. If you're going to say something, say something thought provoking, interesting, or even poetic. But please spare us from your nervous mouth energy. Thankyou. Next, It is clear as a crystal, by the evidence of numerous links I have posted, that there are interest within me that goes beyond the borders of Oceangirl. And every now and then, if I feel it goes with whatever I happen to be discussing at the time, I'll leave you all a little something,something. But even if all you did day after day was eat, sleep, $h1T, and check this bulletin board, it wouldn't concern me at all. But when you come here for your "OG time", why not make the most of it, since you're already at the computer. Dream big, don't settle for "Well, guess I'll get off my butt and check the o'l board. Darn it, no new messages." Think,"Hey! I'll go work a little on my OG project on the computer!" Lastly...Gee thanks Yoda for telling me about the 'innerself'! Now I feel like I could take on the whole Empire! Savant, the Neri we litterally saw was pixels on a monitor. If pixels in cyberspace are displayed in the way you see them on T.V. you will have replicated Neri's 'innerself',regardless to the method used. It's not magic, it's a formula.

Sincerely,

No.2Pencil

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- Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE Savant 00:21:58 3/09/99 (2)
  - Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE No.2Pencil 22:29:28 3/09/99 (1)
    - Re: NERI IN CYBERSPACE - please get help No 2 Pencil...! Savant 17:12:33 3/10/99 (0)

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    : Savant wrote:

    : : I hate to break it to you, but everything about Ocean Girl is copyright to Jonathan M. Shiff, and you have no right to create her without permission.

    : : You can do what you like on your own, but you could never 'publish openly' anything you made based on Ocean Girl unless you purchased the rights.

    : : Did you know that Jonathan M. Shiff was formerly a practicing attorney and solicitor for 14 years before becoming a producer?  It's true.

    : : I do hate to break it to you, but Ocean Girl is just a TV program.  We have had this discussion before, but you continue to try and raise 'Neri' to some pseudo "god-like" status.  The show is FICTION, so enjoy it, but don't worship it.

    : : I take offence to your remarks.  If anything, you are a hypocrite.  The people on my mailing list and the others subscribe because they enjoyed the series and want to discuss it.  Little Angel (Patrik) is the perfect example of a decent person who likes the show, and likes to talk about it.  He is now co-building a 'Ocean Girl' related web site, and I wish him well.

    : : People join mailing lists to keep in touch with other people who enjoy the show.  Unless you are calling 'talk about Ocean Girl' junk, I suggest you take a long hard look at yourself, and look who is talking...

    : : No one, except the producer can do that.  He is creating an animated series, and work is being done on creating a movie.

    : : This is where you are really wrong.  Unlike you, the people on the mailing lists are interested in things other than Ocean Girl.  We have lives to live, things to do, and people to see.

    : : You don't know ANYONE on the lists well enough to make a statement such as that.  The problem is that YOU see "Neri" (a fictional character) as a God, and as a result, you think that this is how everyone else should see it.

    : : This basically says what I was saying before.  You are infatuated with a fictional character in a TV show, and you have the NERVE to call other people 'pitiful'???  I think you need to get some help, either emotional or legal help, since you will end up getting burned one way or another.

    : : Neri is someone ELSE'S creation, it is NOT your creation.  Until you come to grips with that fact you will never understand why you can't have what you want.  You can do what you want on your own computers, make up Neri's and such.  However NONE of what you make can be shown in public without permission from the producer.

    : : Marzena Godecki playing the character 'Neri' is gone.  Marzena is older now, and there is no way to turn back the hands of time.  You need to get over it, and move on in life.  You can create a 'Neri' in "cyberspace" but it will be inanimate, and without a soul.  So the looks may be there, but that's it.  A big part of the character 'Neri' was not her 'looks' but the 'inner self' that was portrayed by her.  You can't manufacture that with ANY computer no matter HOW hard you try.

    : : So no matter what you do, the image will always be a shadow of the original, and nothing more.  Remember that.

    : : Regards,

    : : Savant

    :
    : Dear Savant:

    : Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. You must learn to love yourself my friend! I come to share ideas that will inspire exciting creations from OG fans. But I see now that the truth I spoke caused you to have some sort of Mental Bowelmovement. Fascinating! Everything come out OK big guy? I'm sorry to have to tell you this because I know you were really counting on copyrighting your face and then suing everyone who looks like you for stealing your idea, but you can not copyright facial features. Which also means the Neri I create in cyberspace can look like Marzena and be 'published openly' and Jhonny boy can't do squat. Secondly you can't sue someone just for having a similar storyline. If that were the case the makers of the movies "THE BLUE LAGOON" starring Brooke Shields, and "SPLASH" could sue o'l Jhon Jhon. Not to mention the makers of "DEEP IMPACT" sue "ARMAGEDDON", "ANTS" sue "BUG'S LIFE", "HEAFCLIFF" sue "GARFIELD", "PLASTICMAN" sue "MR.FANTASTIC",....clearly the courts would be pact. I don't know where you got the idea that I literally worship a T.V. show. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you are not able to both read and comprehend, rather than assuming you're stupid. However, if the definition of the word God is supreme. And I say Oceangirl ranks supreme among shows. Then technically one could say it is "God-like" among shows. Of course there's nothing wrong with talking about Oceangirl.....unless it's just boring, mindless, chit-chat. If you're going to say something, say something thought provoking, interesting, or even poetic. But please spare us from your nervous mouth energy. Thankyou. Next, It is clear as a crystal, by the evidence of numerous links I have posted, that there are interest within me that goes beyond the borders of Oceangirl. And every now and then, if I feel it goes with whatever I happen to be discussing at the time, I'll leave you all a little something,something. But even if all you did day after day was eat, sleep, $h1T, and check this bulletin board, it wouldn't concern me at all. But when you come here for your "OG time", why not make the most of it, since you're already at the computer. Dream big, don't settle for "Well, guess I'll get off my butt and check the o'l board. Darn it, no new messages." Think,"Hey! I'll go work a little on my OG project on the computer!" Lastly...Gee thanks Yoda for telling me about the 'innerself'! Now I feel like I could take on the whole Empire! Savant, the Neri we litterally saw was pixels on a monitor. If pixels in cyberspace are displayed in the way you see them on T.V. you will have replicated Neri's 'innerself',regardless to the method used. It's not magic, it's a formula.

    : Sincerely,

    : No.2Pencil

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