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Posted by No.2Pencil on December 11, 1998 at 14:26:38: In Reply to: Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS HERE posted by Xanatic on December 11, 1998 at 08:30:37:

: Greetings OG-freaks

: I think your problem is that you tend to believe what you want to believe rather than what you have reason to believe. And you should check your sources better. Ufology is consisting of 99% wackos. Ppl like Courtney Brown and Daniken cannot be trusted.

: Besides, I donīt know if Noreo likes us using the board for this looong off-topic discussion. What do you say we do it via e-mail instead?

: Xanatic

Dear Xanatic,

I think we should continue the discussion on the board because people are reading. Don't you find it a little strange that all of a sudden it seems like we are the only two people writing. That means everyone else is reading. People want to hear what's being said on heavy issues, because they're looking for answers and looking to see which point of view will prove itself to be the truth. As for your other statements, as more information comes to the scientist of this world, yes they do know more. When I say they just don't know I'm reffering to the fact that most of them have been so arrogant in what they believe, that when something else comes along in conflict with what they say, they still insist that they are right and that they "just don't know how this new evidence can be." Such as the water erosion on the Sphinx in Egypt. Yes, they know what water erosion looks like but many will say they just don't know how it is, because they think they already know how old the sphinx is so evedence should fit with their theorys. In other words very arrogant.
It's not that they "don't know" duh?! It's that they don't see how these things exsist without their permission, involment, or already constructed theorys. Like they are the truth and everything must fall in line with what they say and if it doesn't just ignore it and hope it goes away or they attempt to hide it inorder to keep things the way they are. If you think the goal of science is to find the Truth to make the world a better place you are mistaken. While some scientist feel that way there are MANY who search for truth inorder to get to it first, then hide it like a little brat, inorder to keep people trusting their theorys. Who on the outside maintain that it doesn't exsist for example, and then work in secret to keep it from ever becoming known. The tribe in Africa you are referring to is the Doagon tribe, who had a knowledge of planets and stars, and performed a dance ceremony having to do with the movement of that star every 40 or 60 years. I never learned about that in school. That type of information is always on the fringe because it conflicts with theorys of the people of that tribe and what they "should" know. Also, while some cropcircles have been shown to be pranks, some have been shown to be done by methods usually to out of reach for your average joe prankster. For instance grass continuing to grow in a circular path long after the circle being made, the plant life in the circle being magnitized and slightly mutated. Their is study on these things but you have to go looking for it. It isn't mainstream. When I say "we" I mean everyone. Not just a few people know what's going on, today everyone's waking up, plugging in with "certain bulletin boards", etc. And as the older generations dies out, and we take their place, the truth can be made mainstream because we will be the ones in control. Some "UFO's" are flown by earth people, and some are not. While there are some pranksters in the bunch, there is evidence of real crafts high above the earth, in orbit, that the people on Earth are not involved with putting up there. Some people in the crafts have visited Earth people and confirmed that they were from other solar systems such as the case involving Billy Meir who says the people told him they were from the star system known here as the Pleiades. He actually photograph one of them,a woman named Askit, and we could see that their earlobes were a bit longer than the average earth person's earlobe which also might tie into ancient earth civilizations who looked on the long ear lobes as beauty and artificially streched theirs down. There is no one from 1492 alive today, yet we trust mainstream culture that says Columbus landed on the islands near America. There is no way for us to Prove beyond the shawdow of a doubt that he existed. He's dead. Yet people hesitate to believe history being made today because it's not mainstream. Some people do lie, like the liars of the past. And some people tell the truth. I have studied Meir and he is a real down to earth guy. He's not trying to get paid. He's just telling what he's seen and heard. He's too down to Earth to be a liar, to normal of a guy, old and slow. As for Mars, that 5 sided pyramid with it's sameness on the left and right sides, and right angles and happening to be right next to another object in question, the face, and the sameness of it and right angles in the headress, it is clear that it was made with an intelligence. You say my "problem" is that I tend to believe what I want to believe, rather than what I have reason to believe. Give me a break "proffesor science". To any person with eyes it is clear that this pyramid is man made. Natural forces do not shape 5 sided pyramids. Thats like saying just because the pyramids on Earth are made out of the Earth, it must be a mountain. Made by wind,rain and erosion. Or the 70A13 picture of the sphinx is also another bump in the sand, carved with teeth, eyes, a head dress with RIGHT ANGLES all these coincidences on the same "hill" of dirt. Gee, I hope nature shapes me a new outfit in time for Christmas. Your problem is you think it makes you look macho to deny there is an immortal. Your problem is that you get some kind of power kick in thinking your blessing and validation is needed to authenticate those ruins as ruins. It doesn't need your validation. The truth speaks for itself. Those pictures speak louder than you, so I can't hear a word you say. I'm sorry, did you just say somthing? I couldn't hear your denial with all this truth blasting. Hmmmm.... maybe you should rethink your position. Just a suggestion, if you want to be powerful, speak Truth, that's real power and good people will respect you too.

Sincerely,

No.2Pencil

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    : : Greetings OG-freaks

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    : : I think your problem is that you tend to believe what you want to believe rather than what you have reason to believe. And you should check your sources better. Ufology is consisting of 99% wackos. Ppl like Courtney Brown and Daniken cannot be trusted.

    : : Besides, I donīt know if Noreo likes us using the board for this looong off-topic discussion. What do you say we do it via e-mail instead?

    : : Xanatic

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    : Dear Xanatic,

    : I think we should continue the discussion on the board because people are reading. Don't you find it a little strange that all of a sudden it seems like we are the only two people writing. That means everyone else is reading. People want to hear what's being said on heavy issues, because they're looking  for answers and looking to see which point of view will prove itself to be the truth. As for your other statements, as more information comes to the scientist of this world, yes they do know more. When I say they just don't know I'm reffering to the fact that most of them have been so arrogant in what they believe, that when something else comes along in conflict with what they say, they still insist that they are right and that they "just don't know how this new evidence can be." Such as the water erosion on the Sphinx in Egypt. Yes, they know what water erosion looks like but many will say they just don't know how it is, because they think they already know how old the sphinx is so evedence should fit with their theorys. In other words very arrogant.
    : It's not that they "don't know" duh?! It's that they don't see how these things exsist without their permission, involment, or already constructed theorys. Like they are the truth and everything must fall in line with what they say and if it doesn't just ignore it and hope it goes away or they attempt to hide it inorder to keep things the way they are. If you think the goal of science is to find the Truth to make the world a better place you are mistaken. While some scientist feel that way there are MANY who search for truth inorder to get to it first, then hide it like a little brat, inorder to keep people trusting their theorys. Who on the outside maintain that it doesn't exsist for example, and then work in secret to keep it from ever becoming known. The tribe in Africa you are referring to is the Doagon tribe, who had a knowledge of planets and stars, and performed a dance ceremony having to do with the movement of that star every 40 or 60 years. I never learned about that in school. That type of information is always on the fringe because it conflicts with theorys of the people of that tribe and what they "should" know. Also, while some cropcircles have been shown to be pranks, some have been shown to be done by methods usually to out of reach for your average joe prankster. For instance grass continuing to grow in a circular path long after the circle being made, the plant life in the circle being magnitized and slightly mutated. Their is study on these things but you have to go looking for it. It isn't mainstream. When I say "we" I mean everyone. Not just a few people know what's going on, today everyone's waking up, plugging in with "certain bulletin boards", etc. And as the older generations dies out, and we take their place, the truth can be made mainstream because we will be the ones in control. Some "UFO's" are flown by earth people, and some are not. While there are some pranksters in the bunch, there is evidence of real crafts high above the earth, in orbit, that the people on Earth are not involved with putting up there. Some people in the crafts have visited Earth people and confirmed that they were from other solar systems such as the case involving Billy Meir who says the people told him they were from the star system known here as the Pleiades. He actually photograph one of them,a woman named Askit, and we could see that their earlobes were a bit longer than the average earth person's earlobe which also might tie into ancient earth civilizations who looked on the long ear lobes as beauty and artificially streched theirs down. There is no one from 1492 alive today, yet we trust mainstream culture that says Columbus landed on the islands near America. There is no way for us to Prove beyond the shawdow of a doubt that he existed. He's dead. Yet people hesitate to believe history being made today because it's not mainstream. Some people do lie, like the liars of the past. And some people tell the truth. I have studied Meir and he is a real down to earth guy. He's not trying to get paid. He's just telling what he's seen and heard. He's too down to Earth to be a liar, to normal of a guy, old and slow. As for Mars, that 5 sided pyramid with it's sameness on the left and right sides, and right angles and happening to be right next to another object in question, the face, and the sameness of it and right angles in the headress, it is clear that it was made with an intelligence. You say my "problem" is that I tend to believe what I want to believe, rather than what I have reason to believe. Give me a break "proffesor science". To any person with eyes it is clear that this pyramid is man made. Natural forces do not shape 5 sided pyramids. Thats like saying just because the pyramids on Earth are made out of the Earth, it must be a mountain. Made by wind,rain and erosion. Or the 70A13 picture of the sphinx is also another bump in the sand, carved with teeth, eyes, a head dress with RIGHT ANGLES all these coincidences on the same "hill" of dirt. Gee, I hope nature shapes me a new outfit in time for Christmas. Your problem is you think it makes you look macho to deny there is an immortal. Your problem is that you get some kind of power kick in thinking your blessing and validation is needed to authenticate those ruins as ruins. It doesn't need your validation. The truth speaks for itself. Those pictures speak louder than you, so I can't hear a word you say. I'm sorry, did you just say somthing? I couldn't hear your denial with all this truth blasting. Hmmmm.... maybe you should rethink your position. Just a suggestion, if you want to be powerful, speak Truth, that's real power and good people will respect you too.

    : Sincerely,

    : No.2Pencil

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