## Re: OG chatrooms

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Posted by Adam on April 13, 2000 at 01:56:53: In Reply to: Re: OG chatrooms posted by Savant on September 06, 1999 at 17:00:02:

: : : Also, you may have created a that channel, and maybe even
: : : are keeping it open with a bot, but you can never 'own' it. All
: : : it takes is for you to have a server problem and you could 'lose'
: : : the channel, then someone else could create it.

: : That's not completely correct. Some networks offer you to own the
: : channel as a server feature -- you only get operator status if you
: : authenticate yourself with a passwd.

: I disagree. The use of the word 'own' being used here. You can certainly
: 'own' a web-site name, but you can't 'own' an IRC channel name. You can have
: 'control' of it, but you can never 'own' it. Any company that says that you
: can 'own' an IRC channel is misleading you. IRC channels can no more be
: 'owned' than an IRC nickname can be owned. When you register a COM name with
: Internic, you 'own' that name for 2 years, until you renew. As long as you
: keep making renewal payments, you'll always have that name.

: With IRC channels that is not the case.

: There is always the possibility that you can lose a channel, regardless of
: any bots or server control. The chances are slim but they do exist. The
: bottom line is that channels are assigned on a first come first server basis,
: and if you don't keep the channel active at all times you'll lose it.

: Let's put it this way, if your server where your bot is went down completely,
: then someone could set up a bot on another server and take the name. Then
: when your server came back up you would be unable to create the channel, and
: thus you would no longer control it. The bottom line is that no matter what
: you do there is no 100% foolproof way to keep the channel to yourself. That
: is the point I am trying to make.

: : We have protected our IRCNet channel with a bot -- too many people
: : misunderstood the 'Girl' part of the channel name and annoyed the
: : chatters.

: Yeah, I can imagine that many people lookingh for 'cyber' would be attracted
: to any channel with 'girl' in the title.

: Regards,

: Savant

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    : : : : Also, you may have created a that channel, and maybe even
    : : : : are keeping it open with a bot, but you can never 'own' it.  All
    : : : : it takes is for you to have a server problem and you could 'lose'
    : : : : the channel, then someone else could create it.

    : : : That's not completely correct. Some networks offer you to own the
    : : : channel as a server feature -- you only get operator status if you
    : : : authenticate yourself with a passwd.

    : : I disagree.  The use of the word 'own' being used here.  You can certainly
    : : 'own' a web-site name, but you can't 'own' an IRC channel name.  You can have
    : : 'control' of it, but you can never 'own' it.  Any company that says that you
    : : can 'own' an IRC channel is misleading you.  IRC channels can no more be
    : : 'owned' than an IRC nickname can be owned.  When you register a COM name with
    : : Internic, you 'own' that name for 2 years, until you renew.  As long as you
    : : keep making renewal payments, you'll always have that name.

    : : With IRC channels that is not the case.

    : : There is always the possibility that you can lose a channel, regardless of
    : : any bots or server control.  The chances are slim but they do exist.  The
    : : bottom line is that channels are assigned on a first come first server basis,
    : : and if you don't keep the channel active at all times you'll lose it.

    : : Let's put it this way, if your server where your bot is went down completely,
    : : then someone could set up a bot on another server and take the name.  Then
    : : when your server came back up you would be unable to create the channel, and
    : : thus you would no longer control it.  The bottom line is that no matter what
    : : you do there is no 100% foolproof way to keep the channel to yourself.  That
    : : is the point I am trying to make.

    : : : We have protected our IRCNet channel with a bot -- too many people
    : : : misunderstood the 'Girl' part of the channel name and annoyed the
    : : : chatters.

    : : Yeah, I can imagine that many people lookingh for 'cyber' would be attracted
    : : to any channel with 'girl' in the title.

    : : Regards,

    : : Savant

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