## Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS... coming soon.

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Posted by Savant on December 13, 1998 at 00:05:47: In Reply to: Re: THE YEAR 2000;THE FUTURE IS... coming soon. posted by No.2Pencil on December 12, 1998 at 21:42:17:

: : Perhaps I am different, I am a 'realist' by nature, and I don't see how you can simply 'accept' the fantasy of Ocean Girl as a prediction of the future. I like the Ocean Girl series, but I don't see it as a representation of the future. You are an idealist, and although it is nice to think that 'Neri' is real, she is not. Marzena does a great job working with the character of Neri, but 'Neri' is NOT real, you have to accept that.

: : 'Neri' wouldn't have anything to say about this because there is no 'Neri' in reality, it is physically impossible for you to talk to 'Neri' since she does not exist.

: : I think the series is great, but it is NOT a documenmtary. What's real is that the United Nations designated 1998 as the Year of the Ocean. For more information on this, check out a site near you...

: Dear Savant,

: Now I want you to listen to me very carefully. Pick up a newspaper. Roll it up. Now bop yourself over the head.

: Savant, if you had taken the time to actually read what has been being said, instead of "ignoring" it as you so arrogantly stated, maybe then you would have a clue as to what's going on.

That's the problem, I don't WANT to read it since it has nothing to do with Ocean Girl, which just happens to be the subject for this bulletin board.

However, in an effort to understand this insanity, I read the entire thread...

Here is your message that started this thread...

:Growing up in the 1980's, the future (year 2000) was predicted to be a time when you would be able to realize any dream. To have a dream, and then make it real! So 1990 came..1993..1996..1998..and we are now about to enter 1999. We are now living in the "future". And looking at where the world is at today, I've come to the realization that the "future" is mostly visual titillation, and hardly any substance. For example "Star Trek" was supposed to be a picture of the future, yet the space program is doubtful that they will ever complete a full spacestation. There is still no real cure for cancer,retardation,Aids. People still get old and die. People sill have to spend most of their time working at a job they hate so they can survive another day to work another day. Automobiles still use polluting gasoline. There are no practical hoverboards. This world's advancement has been in producing more and more realistic illusions, NOT substance. For example computer animation, all the Adobe Photoshop software, Ray Dream Studio,etc...This has been the area where man has put most of his energys. Not to make the lives of people better by giving them substance. But how to make better and better illusions in movies, more visual titillation, while the planet goes to hell. Sure there has been some progress, for instance now we can chit-chat on the phone while driving in our car. "That was worth the wait,what a time to be alive." The world doesn't need "magician gods", masters of illusions and trickery. People need substance. Computer generated images are nice to look at, but people need miracles not magic. I do still believe that a wonderful future age is possible, but as long as the motive is to "get paid" we will continue on down the same bestial path. Better special effects means bigger audience which means more money for the studios. The more pain killers the hospital can sell, the more money for the hospitals. If a cure to the illness was discovered, people would no longer need the hospitals, and the hospitals would loose money. A wonderful future is possible for mankind, but a pure time can only be brought about by a pure heart. A time of peace can only be brought about by a mind at peace. When peope cease to think like animals, and begin to think like Gods, then and only then will we move into a future filled with light and love. I have come to the realization that children are most like God. God is not an "adult", because adults are not pure in heart, at peace, beautiful, or believe in miracles. God is a child. And a child will bring about a future of light and love. A beautiful boy king.

No offence, but what does ANY of that have to do with a television series?

If anyone, Xanatic is the most on the mark in his remarks in this thread.

:I think your problem is that you tend to believe what you want to believe rather than what you have reason to believe.

Well said Xanatic.

You continued to say...

:What we've been discussing is REALISTIC analysis of nature, cultures, history, religion, racism, photographic data, and society. While the subject matter of the discussion has a likeness to the subject matter of the show, not one of us has used events in the TV show to literally prove our positions. It's either analysis of religion, nature, cultures, photographic data, society, history, or racism that can prove the cases.

I've seen the large amount of religion discussion in the thread, but never ONCE is religion shown in Ocean Girl.

:As for holding a rich conversation with Neri, while I do love the character Neri very much because I feel she is a female version of myself, and would be a natural companion to my personality, I was refering to speaking with that concept of personality, as I have not yet pinpointed an actual human having such personality. As for the "United" Nations. I think that speaks for itself.

No, you blew it. Here is what you said...

:Why in fact I feel Neri would have something to say about this topic. This topic just seems to fit her personality.

Finishing with this...

:Neri is a deep girl and very observant. I would love talking to her and Xanatic.

'Neri' doesn't have a personality, she is not "a deep girl and very observant", and Xanatic can't talk to her with you. This is reality. No offence intended, but I can't say it any other way.

:It could be like we're doing Oceangirl 5 on the Board."OCEANGIRL 5 THE X-FILES"

Ocean Girl is not an 'X-File" since the "X-Files" is also a completely fictitious show. These shows are meant to entertain.

You said...

:Dear Xanatic, To your question of "whose side am I on?" I do know that an everliving, immortal person exsist. I know it as fact not just some "belief".

Well this is going to be good. If you can actually PROVE this I will personally submit your nomination for the Nobel prize!

It's obvious you are a die-hard idealist, but this is not the place to post a manifesto.

Regards,

Savant

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    : : : Perhaps I am different, I am a 'realist' by nature, and I don't see how you can simply 'accept' the fantasy of Ocean Girl as a prediction of the future.  I like the Ocean Girl series, but I don't see it as a representation of the future.  You are an idealist, and although it is nice to think that 'Neri' is real, she is not.  Marzena does a great job working with the character of Neri, but 'Neri' is NOT real, you have to accept that.

    : : : 'Neri' wouldn't have anything to say about this because there is no 'Neri' in reality, it is physically impossible for you to talk to 'Neri' since she does not exist.

    : : : I think the series is great, but it is NOT a documenmtary.  What's real is that the United Nations designated 1998 as the Year of the Ocean.  For more information on this, check out a site near you...

    :
    : : Dear Savant,

    : : Now I want you to listen to me very carefully. Pick up a newspaper. Roll it up. Now bop yourself over the head.

    : : Savant, if you had taken the time to actually read what has been being said, instead of "ignoring" it as you so arrogantly stated, maybe then you would have a clue as to what's going on.

    : That's the problem, I don't WANT to read it since it has nothing to do with Ocean Girl, which just happens to be the subject for this bulletin board.

    : However, in an effort to understand this insanity, I read the entire thread...

    : Here is your message that started this thread...

    : :Growing up in the 1980's, the future (year 2000) was predicted to be a time when you would be able to realize any dream.  To have a dream, and then make it real! So 1990 came..1993..1996..1998..and we are now about to enter 1999. We are now living in the "future". And looking at where the world is at today, I've come to the realization that the "future" is mostly visual titillation, and hardly any substance. For example "Star Trek" was supposed to be a picture of the future, yet the space program is doubtful that they will ever complete a full spacestation. There is still no real cure for cancer,retardation,Aids. People still get old and die. People sill have to spend most of their time working at a job they hate so they can survive another day to work another day. Automobiles still use polluting gasoline. There are no practical hoverboards. This world's advancement has been in producing more and more realistic illusions, NOT substance. For example computer animation, all the Adobe Photoshop software, Ray Dream Studio,etc...This has been the area where man has put most of his energys. Not to make the lives of people better by giving them substance. But how to make better and better illusions in movies, more visual titillation, while the planet goes to hell. Sure there has been some progress, for instance now we can chit-chat on the phone while driving in our car. "That was worth the wait,what a time to be alive." The world doesn't need "magician gods", masters of illusions and trickery. People need substance.  Computer generated images are nice to look at, but people need miracles not magic. I do still believe that a wonderful future age is possible, but as long as the motive is to "get paid" we will continue on down the same bestial path. Better special effects means bigger audience which means more money for the studios. The more pain killers the hospital can sell, the more money for the hospitals. If a cure to the illness was discovered, people would no longer need the hospitals,  and the hospitals would loose money. A wonderful future is possible for mankind, but a pure time can only be brought about by a pure heart. A time of peace can only be brought about by a mind at peace. When peope cease to think like animals, and begin to think like Gods, then and only then will we move into a future filled with light and love. I have come to the realization that children are most like God. God is not an "adult", because adults are not pure in heart, at peace, beautiful, or believe in miracles. God is a child. And a child will bring about a future of light and love. A beautiful boy king.

    : No offence, but what does ANY of that have to do with a television series?

    : If anyone, Xanatic is the most on the mark in his remarks in this thread.

    : :I think your problem is that you tend to believe what you want to believe rather than what you have reason to believe.

    : Well said Xanatic.

    : You continued to say...

    : :What we've been discussing is REALISTIC analysis of nature, cultures, history, religion, racism, photographic data, and society.  While the subject matter of the discussion has a likeness to the subject matter of the show, not one of us has used events in the TV show to literally prove our positions. It's either analysis of religion, nature, cultures, photographic data, society, history, or racism that can prove the cases.

    : I've seen the large amount of religion discussion in the thread, but never ONCE is religion shown in Ocean Girl.

    : :As for holding a rich conversation with Neri, while I do love the character Neri very much because I feel she is a female version of myself, and would be a natural companion to my personality, I was refering to speaking with that concept of personality, as I have not yet pinpointed an actual human having such personality.  As for the "United" Nations. I think that speaks for itself.

    : No, you blew it.  Here is what you said...

    : :Why in fact I feel Neri would have something to say about this topic. This topic just seems to fit her personality.

    : Finishing with this...

    : :Neri is a deep girl and very observant. I would love talking to her and Xanatic.

    : 'Neri' doesn't have a personality, she is not "a deep girl and very observant", and Xanatic can't talk to her with you.  This is reality.  No offence intended, but I can't say it any other way.

    : :It could be like we're doing Oceangirl 5 on the Board."OCEANGIRL 5 THE X-FILES"

    : Ocean Girl is not an 'X-File" since the "X-Files" is also a completely fictitious show.  These shows are meant to entertain.

    : You said...

    : :Dear Xanatic, To your question of "whose side am I on?" I do know that an everliving, immortal person exsist. I know it as fact not just some "belief".

    : Well this is going to be good.  If you can actually PROVE this I will personally submit your nomination for the Nobel prize!

    : It's obvious you are a die-hard idealist, but this is not the place to post a manifesto.

    : Regards,

    : Savant

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