## Re: THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE ME OUT THERE!!

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Posted by Savant on December 14, 1998 at 00:21:47: In Reply to: Re: THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE LIKE ME OUT THERE!! posted by No.2Pencil on December 13, 1998 at 11:42:56:

>>Jenny wrote:
>>Well Kelly, I felt just like you at first. Like, at my school, no one
>>knows about this t.v program "Ocean Girl" and if they did, not many
>>liked it. But when I found out stuffs about Ocean Girl from the
>>internet. I found out, woh, "there are still people like me out
>>there!"
>>
>>p.s- I love Spellbinder too, it's got me spellbound as well. I've
>>noticed that many who likes Ocean Girl likes spellbinder.......I
>>wonder, what is the connection? Maybe these 2 programs has got
>>something very similar.
>
>
>No 2 Pencil wrote:
>It's too bad that some people are not able to see the beauty in
>Oceangirl and Spellbinder. I do see a connection between the shows
>(other than Lauren Hewitt), which is they both deal with subject matter
>that has something to do with challenging the exsisting[SIC] theroies[SIC]
>of the universe.

Ummm... Oh boy. Yuno part of me feels bad in bursting your bubble, but someone will sooner or later.

Here is a description of the show from Jonathan M. Shiff's website, the creator of "Ocean Girl" himself.

>OCEAN GIRL is a children's fantasy adventure series set in the near
>future. It is the story of NERI, a mysterious young girl from the ocean
>and her exciting adventures above and below the sea!

The key word here is 'fantasy'.

Fantasy(n)
1. unrestrained imagination;
2. an ILLUSORY(see below) mental image;
3. a VISIONARY(see below) idea

illusory(adj)
1.something that deceives the eye or mind
2.a mistaken perception or belief

visionary(adj)
1.unpractical
2.given to idealistic theorizing

So to say that Ocean Girl would...

>deal with subject matter that has something to do with challenging the
>exsisting[SIC] theroies[SIC] of the universe

I don't understand how you can vault a 'fantasy' show to this status.

Now a show like "STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE" might 'challenge existing theories of the universe', but Ocean Girl does not. To suggest it does is an insult to the many intelligent minds who have devoted their lives to the REAL thing. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/html/

>For instance in Spellbinder we see Kathy going into another
>realm, with a whole other civilization living there. That is deep. And
>on Oceangirl, you have spacecraft, people from other planets, and
>scientist who use science for the wrong reasons. That's deep too. That
>is the connection between the 2 shows, they are't just the
>"Torklesons", they deal with things that connect them to the 'hidden'
>realitys[SIC] of the universe, which then also connects them to the study
>of the 'hidden' realitys[SIC] of the universe in general. I'm sure
>many people who like Oceangirl and Spellbinder are open to research in
>the area of life on other planets, spacecrafts, another realm, and
>people who use science for the wrong reasons. I think that is what makes
>them similar. Which is ironic because with this show as the base of the
>bulletin board, you would expect to see more conversation on these
>things.

The problem is that the show does NOT 'challenge existing theories of the universe' and so that is why people don't discuss such matters.

If you want some ANSWERS to 'theories of the universe' from people who are EXPERTS in their field, then check out this page...
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/html/ask.html

>Conversation that challenges exsisting[SIC] theories of the
>universe. Instead it sounds like the "Torklesons Board". Where's the
>life, the spirit! Maybe people think I'm weird, like your peers at
>school think maybe you are wierd[SIC] to like Oceangirl. "Like oh my
>god, like,here comes that like,totally like, wierd[SIC] girl, who likes
>that show 'Seagirl', like, I'm so sure!" But Oceangirl being the base
>for this bulletin board, I think we should study things that
>chalenge[SIC] the exsisting[SIC] theories of the universe and make deep
>observations of society. We expect to be labled[SIC] "wierd"[SIC] on the
>outside, but not in the "temple".

"Temple"!?!?!?! Oh please, come on. This is not the "Church of Neri" or a 'shrine' to the "Ocean Girl" show. It's a simple bulletin board, that discusses a television show. Nobody thinks a person is 'weird' for watching a television show, but they DO think a person is 'weird' when they suggest a TV fantasy show 'challenges existing theories of the universe'.

Ocean Girl and Spellbinder are shows meant to entertain, one might even call them 'thought provoking' but they are far from being shows that 'challenge existing theories of the universe'.

You seem to have a surreal view of these shows. I would respectfully suggest that you look into taking a course in metaphysics, since you seem unable to accept some aspects of reality.

Metaphysics: The science of real as distinguished from phenomenal being

As a member of MENSA, (http://www.mensa.org/info.html) I often find myself in discussions with other members who stretch their minds to the limits, in the hope of understanding the 'universe' as it is called.

However, I must be honest, never once has a show like "Ocean Girl" ever entered into the conversation. Mind you I still enjoy watching it.

Regards,

Savant

[SIC]=Quoted exactly as written, even though incorrect

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    : >>Jenny wrote:
    : >>Well Kelly, I felt just like you at first.  Like, at my school, no one
    : >>knows about this t.v program "Ocean Girl" and if they did, not many
    : >>liked it.  But when I found out stuffs about Ocean Girl from the
    : >>internet.  I found out, woh, "there are still people like me out
    : >>there!"
    : >>
    : >>p.s- I love Spellbinder too, it's got me spellbound as well.  I've
    : >>noticed that many who likes Ocean Girl likes spellbinder.......I
    : >>wonder, what is the connection?  Maybe these 2 programs has got
    : >>something very similar.
    : >
    : >
    : >No 2 Pencil wrote:
    : >It's too bad that some people are not able to see the beauty in
    : >Oceangirl and Spellbinder. I do see a connection between the shows
    : >(other than Lauren Hewitt), which is they both deal with subject matter
    : >that has something to do with challenging the exsisting[SIC] theroies[SIC]
    : >of the universe.

    :
    : Ummm...  Oh boy.  Yuno part of me feels bad in bursting your bubble, but someone will sooner or later.

    : Here is a description of the show from Jonathan M. Shiff's website, the creator of "Ocean Girl" himself.

    : >OCEAN GIRL is a children's fantasy adventure series set in the near
    : >future. It is the story of NERI, a mysterious young girl from the ocean
    : >and her exciting adventures above and below the sea!

    : The key word here is 'fantasy'.

    : Fantasy(n)
    : 1. unrestrained imagination;
    : 2. an ILLUSORY(see below) mental image;
    : 3. a VISIONARY(see below) idea

    : illusory(adj)
    : 1.something that deceives the eye or mind
    : 2.a mistaken perception or belief

    : visionary(adj)
    : 1.unpractical
    : 2.given to idealistic theorizing

    :
    : So to say that Ocean Girl would...

    : >deal with subject matter that has something to do with challenging the
    : >exsisting[SIC] theroies[SIC] of the universe

    : I don't understand how you can vault a 'fantasy' show to this status.

    : Now a show like "STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE" might 'challenge existing theories of the universe', but Ocean Girl does not.  To suggest it does is an insult to the many intelligent minds who have devoted their lives to the REAL thing.   http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/html/

    : >For instance in Spellbinder we see Kathy going into another
    : >realm, with a whole other civilization living there. That is deep. And
    : >on Oceangirl, you have spacecraft, people from other planets, and
    : >scientist who use science for the wrong reasons. That's deep too. That
    : >is the connection between the 2 shows, they are't just the
    : >"Torklesons", they deal with things that connect them to the 'hidden'
    : >realitys[SIC] of the universe, which then also connects them to the study
    : >of the 'hidden' realitys[SIC] of the universe in general. I'm sure
    : >many people who like Oceangirl and Spellbinder are open to research in
    : >the area of life on other planets, spacecrafts, another realm, and
    : >people who use science for the wrong reasons. I think that is what makes
    : >them similar.  Which is ironic because with this show as the base of the
    : >bulletin board, you would expect to see more conversation on these
    : >things.

    : The problem is that the show does NOT 'challenge existing theories of the universe' and so that is why people don't discuss such matters.

    : If you want some ANSWERS to 'theories of the universe' from people who are EXPERTS in their field, then check out this page...
    : http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/html/ask.html

    : >Conversation that challenges exsisting[SIC] theories of the
    : >universe.  Instead it sounds like the "Torklesons Board". Where's the
    : >life, the spirit! Maybe people think I'm weird, like your peers at
    : >school think maybe you are wierd[SIC] to like Oceangirl. "Like oh my
    : >god, like,here comes that like,totally like, wierd[SIC] girl, who likes
    : >that show 'Seagirl', like, I'm so sure!" But Oceangirl being the base
    : >for this bulletin board, I think we should study things that
    : >chalenge[SIC] the exsisting[SIC] theories of the universe and make deep
    : >observations of society. We expect to be labled[SIC] "wierd"[SIC] on the
    : >outside, but not in the "temple".

    : "Temple"!?!?!?!  Oh please, come on.  This is not the "Church of Neri" or a 'shrine' to the "Ocean Girl" show.  It's a simple bulletin board, that discusses a television show.  Nobody thinks a person is 'weird' for watching a television show, but they DO think a person is 'weird' when they suggest a TV fantasy show 'challenges existing theories of the universe'.

    : Ocean Girl and Spellbinder are shows meant to entertain, one might even call them 'thought provoking' but they are far from being shows that 'challenge existing theories of the universe'.

    : You seem to have a surreal view of these shows.  I would respectfully suggest that you look into taking a course in metaphysics, since you seem unable to accept some aspects of reality.

    : Metaphysics: The science of real as distinguished from phenomenal being

    : As a member of MENSA, (http://www.mensa.org/info.html) I often find myself in discussions with other members who stretch their minds to the limits, in the hope of understanding the 'universe' as it is called.

    : However, I must be honest, never once has a show like "Ocean Girl" ever entered into the conversation.  Mind you I still enjoy watching it.

    : Regards,

    : Savant

    : [SIC]=Quoted exactly as written, even though incorrect

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