Posted by vencislav stoqnov on December 17, 2000 at 22:38:04: In Reply to: Re: OG chatrooms posted by Peter 'Rattacresh' Backes on September 07, 1999 at 11:39:16:
: That's is just WRONG. I know IRC and have been using it since it was born.
: What I said was that on some IRC networks, it IS possible to own a channel.
: And that's completely correct, read below.
: > Let's put it this way, if your server where your bot is went down completely,
: > then someone could set up a bot on another server and take the name. Then
: > when your server came back up you would be unable to create the channel, and
: > thus you would no longer control it. The bottom line is that no matter what
: > you do there is no 100% foolproof way to keep the channel to yourself. That
: > is the point I am trying to make.
: Wrong. The IRC networks where you can really own a channel (dalnet, etc.) give
: you the possibility to own the channel *ON SERVER BASIS*. Let me explain how:
: If you join a channel that is not owned by someone else, it behaves like
: you would normally expect, you get operator status as you're the first
: one. Now, you can send a 'REGISTER' command to Chanserv (or whatever it's
: called on the network you're on) and must specify a password. From this time
: forward, you really OWN the channel. If another user joins the channel and
: noone has been on, he will NEITHER get operator status (on some networks he
: gets, but is instantly deopped. And mode changes he has done during
: this short time will be cancelled immediately) NOR be able to register
: the channel. You can ONLY get operator status again if you join the channel
: and send a command with your password to Chanserv which will instantly give you
: operator status. (yes, the Chanserv ops you although he's not on the channel!)
: If you don't join the channel for 30 days, your registration will expire
: automatically. If you put a bot on such a channel and register HIM to be the
: owner, there is NO possibility to overtake the channel, given that the
: bot has no downtime longer than 30 days, no irc server on the network uses
: modified (hacked) code to override your ownership and you choose your
: password wisely.
: If you compare this to domain ownership then it is the same
: except that you don't have to pay for it and there are known cases of
: successful domain takeovers (yep, that was possible, too) while chanserv
: channels have not been reported to ever have been hacked.
: I could explain now how this works technically and, but
: I think that's really too much off-topic for an og webboard. Mail me if you
: need details.
: If you say there's no nickname ownership, you're wrong, too. Some
: networks offer you a similar service called 'nickserv' which allows
: you to reserve a nick. If one joins net network with your registred nick,
: he gets a message. You can then /KILL the person as long as he's using your
: nick if you give nickserv the command and your password.