Posted by Mario on May 07, 1999 at 06:08:42: In Reply to: posted by charleyt on May 07, 1999 at 06:01:03:
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: I have to agree with number 2 pencil. If what Savant
: says is correct, then the creators of Aquaman couldd
: sue JMS for copyright violation. I once posted in a
: certain newsgroup what ocean girl was about, and the
: replies I got back said that ocean girl "sounds like
: a ripoff of Aquaman". Ad no, it wasn't in any comics
: nwsgroup nor comics-related newsgroup that was psted
: in. And I'm not saying that Ocean Girl us a ripoff
: of Aquaman. That's what some other people said. I myself like Ocean Girl. It's STILL my favorite tv show, even though the live-acton episodes are over.
: Number 2 pencil wrote:
: : aant wrote:
: : : I hate to break it to you, but everything
: about Ocean Girl is copyright to Jonathan M.
: Shiff, and you have no right to create her
: without permission.
: : : You can do what you like on your own, but you
: could never 'publish openly' anything you made
: based on Ocean Girl unless you purchased the
: rights.
: : : Did you know that Jonathan M. Shiff was
: formerly a practicing attorney and solicitor for
: 14 years before becoming a producer? It's true.
: : : I do hate to break it to you, but Ocean Girl
: is just a TV program. We have had this
: discussion before, but you continue to try and
: raise 'Neri' to some pseudo "god-like" status.
: The show is FICTION, so enjoy it, but don't
: worship it.
: : : I take offence to your remarks. If anything,
: you are a hypocrite. The people on my mailing
: list and the others subscribe because they
: enjoyed the series and want to discuss it.
: Little Angel (Patrik) is the perfect example of a
: decent person who likes the show, and likes to
: talk about it. He is now co-building a 'Ocean
: Girl' related web site, and I wish him well.
: : : People join mailing lists to keep in touch
: with other people who enjoy the show. Unless you
: are calling 'talk about Ocean Girl' junk, I
: suggest you take a long hard look at yourself,
: and look who is talking...
: : : No one, except the producer can do that. He
: is creating an animated series, and work is being
: done on creating a movie.
: : : This is where you are really wrong. Unlike
: you, the people on the mailing lists are
: interested in things other than Ocean Girl. We
: have lives to live, things to do, and people to
: see.
: : : You don't know ANYONE on the lists well
: enough to make a statement such as that. The
: problem is that YOU see "Neri" (a fictional
: character) as a God, and as a result, you think
: that this is how everyone else should see it.
: : : This basically says what I was saying before.
: You are infatuated with a fictional character in
: a TV show, and you have the NERVE to call other
: people 'pitiful'??? I think you need to get some
: help, either emotional or legal help, since you
: will end up getting burned one way or another.
: : : Neri is someone ELSE'S creation, it is NOT
: your creation. Until you come to grips with that
: fact you will never understand why you can't have
: what you want. You can do what you want on your
: own computers, make up Neri's and such. However
: NONE of what you make can be shown in public
: without permission from the producer.
: : : Marzena Godecki playing the character 'Neri'
: is gone. Marzena is older now, and there is no
: way to turn back the hands of time. You need to
: get over it, and move on in life. You can create
: a 'Neri' in "cyberspace" but it will be
: inanimate, and without a soul. So the looks may
: be there, but that's it. A big part of the
: character 'Neri' was not her 'looks' but the
: 'inner self' that was portrayed by her. You
: can't manufacture that with ANY computer no
: matter HOW hard you try.
: : : So no matter what you do, the image will
: always be a shadow of the original, and nothing
: more. Remember that.
: : : Regards,
: : : Savant
: :
: : Dear Savant:
: : Don't hate me because I'm beautiful. You must
: learn to love yourself my friend! I come to share
: ideas that will inspire exciting creations from
: OG fans. But I see now that the truth I spoke
: caused you to have some sort of Mental
: Bowelmovement. Fascinating! Everything come out
: OK big guy? I'm sorry to have to tell you this
: because I know you were really counting on
: copyrighting your face and then suing everyone
: who looks like you for stealing your idea, but
: you can not copyright facial features. Which also
: means the Neri I create in cyberspace can look
: like Marzena and be 'published openly' and Jhonny
: boy can't do squat. Secondly you can't sue
: someone just for having a similar storyline. If
: that were the case the makers of the movies "THE
: BLUE LAGOON" starring Brooke Shields, and
: "hSPLASH" could sue o'l Jhon Jhon. Not to mention
: the makers of "DEEP IMPACT" sue "ARMAGEDDON",
: "ANTS" sue "BUG'S LIFE", "HEAFCLIFF" sue
: "GARFIELD", "PLASTICMAN" sue
: "MR.FANTASTIC",....clearly the courts would be
: pact. I don't know where you got the idea that I
: literally worship a T.V. show. But I'll give you
: the benefit of the doubt, and assume you are not
: able to both read and comprehend, rather than
: assuming you're stupid. However, if the
: definition of the word God is supreme. And I say
: Oceangirl ranks supreme among shows. Then
: technically one could say it is "God-like" among
: shows. Of course there's nothing wrong with
: talking about Oceangirl.....unless it's just
: boring, mindless, chit-chat. If you're going to
: say something, say something thought provoking,
: interesting, or even poetic. But please spare us
: from your nervous mouth energy. Thankyou. Next,
: hIt is clear as a crystal, by the evidence of
: numerous links I have posted, that there are
: interest within me that goes beyond the borders
: of Oceangirl. And every now and then, if I feel
: it goes with whatever I happen to be discussing
: at the time, I'll leave you all a little
: something,something. But even if all you did day
: after day was eat, sleep, $h1T, and check this
: bulletin board, it wouldn't concern me at all.
: But when you come here for your "OG time", why
: not make the most of it, since you're already at
: the computer. Dream big, don't settle for "Well,
: guess I'll get off my butt and check the o'l
: board. Darn it, no new messages." Think,"Hey!
: I'll go work a little on my OG project on the
: computer!" Lastly...Gee thanks Yoda for telling
: me about the 'innerself'! Now I feel like I could
: take on the whole Empire! Savant, the Neri we
: litterally saw was pixels on a monitor. If pixels
: in cyberspace are displayed in the way you see
: them on T.V. you will have replicated Neri's
: 'innerself',regardless to the method used. It's
: not magic, it's a formula.
: : Sincerely,
: : No.2Pencil