Posted by charley t on January 04, 2000 at 16:10:24: In Reply to: The Conquest is Over...The Atlantis Project has Failed.. posted by Ghostwriter on December 21, 1999 at 16:22:24:
Which reminds me. There's another copyright controversy going on.
It was either my local newspaper, local tv news, or national tv news that told about it, I don't remember which. But
there is a Canadian company that is putting stuff on the internet, which the U.S. companies say is violating their
copyright law. But the Canadian company says that they are not violating copyright law and they say that what they're
doing is perfectly legal under Canadian copyright law. U.S. companies havethreatened to take it to the Supreme Court, if necessary.
The interesting thing is that they're basically doing the same thing that Savant did with url's (but they're doing it with something other than url's)
The company gives Canadian copyright law as a source that says it's perfectly legal. The U.S. companies give U.S. copyright law
that says it's against the law for them to do that.
The news said that the courts in the U.S. will eventually make a ruling on it. So IF the courts rule that it's against the law, that would in effect make Savant's ocean girl site against
the law in the U.S. I'm not saying he's doing anything against the law. It hasn't even been ruled on yet as whether
it's against the law or not. He's Canadian and it's permitted under
Canadian copyright law, but U.S. companies say it's against copyright
law since the source material origiantes in the U.S. and is being
redistributed in the U.S. without permission from the copyright owners.
Basically, the Canadian company is taking U.S. radio and tv signals that they recieve (maybe over-the-air in Canada) and retransmitting them on the internet where they
can be recieved on the internet in the U.S. Signals like NBC, ABC, CBS.
Just like taking U.S. url's and redisstributing them over the internet where they can be recieved in the U.S. over the internet.
They say since the signals can be recieved in Canada, it's perfectly legal for them to redistribute it over the internet, and that Canadian copyright law permits this, according to their claims. The U.S. companies say that even though the
signals can be recieved in Canada, that the signals originate in the
U.S. and therefore fall under U.S. copyright law, and not Canadian copyright law, and therefore, are against copyright law for the Canadian company to do that.
me: therefore, there is disagreement over it, and the news said that either the U.S. federal courts or U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on whether it's against the law or not.
As for me, I'm no longer capitalist. It doesn't really have anything to do with the above.
I'm not communist. I'm not socialist. And I'm not capitalist any longer. Despite all of my schools teaching that those are the only three possible systems in the world. I think I've come up with a much better way.
But only some people in the world will like the idea I now have.
I think that almost everyone on the ocean girl list will like the idea I have for a more peaceful way.
from charley t
: Friends,
: THE CONQUEST IS OVER. I sent a letter to JMS asking their permission to write my
: movie screenplay. This was the second of such letters. The first I sent approximately a year ago, but I presented it
: poorly and unprofessionally. That is why you didn't know about it. I was embarrassed by it. The second letter was sent
: in a very professional manner and I presented it with much more care and concern for presentation than the latter. This is the reponse
: I received from JMS.
:
: "Christopher J. Mogel
: 1039 29th Avenue SE Unit E
: Minneapolis
: MN 55414-2723
: USA
: Dear Christopher,
: Further to your letter of November 26, 1999. We currently have both a Feature film and
: Telemovie in development based on our OCEAN GIRL series.
: It is important that you understand we own worldwide rights in all media in both our
: OCEAN GIRL series and any spin offs.
: Please do not continue to write and develop projects based on OCEAN GIRL or we will
: be required to seek legal counsel and enforce our rights under copyright law.
: Yours Sincerely,
: (signed)
:
: KAY BEN M'RAD
: General Manager "
:
: So, I guess that's it. It's over for me. The conquest has failed. Four years of hard work, research, and
: defending this screenplay ended in a matter of six sentences. I guess the only thing
: left to say is "Who wants it as FanFic?" I will write out the story, that way it is not the
: summary, but the real words they are breathing, the real emotions they are feeling,
: and the real meaning you can see.
: But from the old, I will start anew. There are stories to write, other
: ways to show you humans the real magic of Atlantis and the incredible gifts
: you all hold.
: Sincerely,
: Christopher J. Mogel
: Ghostwriter
: Dr. Dylan Meredith Waters
:
: "In the begging, there was hope, peace, and prosperity. In the beginning,
: there was Atlantis. The place where the Humans and Ocean people lived to-
: gether for a thousand years. Then one day, an evil force divided the humans
: and Ocean people and the Ocean People returned to their world. The great
: continent of Atlantis sank into the waters of the Atlantic Ocean, only to be
: remember in myths and legends and deemed impracticle by minds of later years.
: All hope was gone, having left with the Ocean People.
: Nine thousand years later the hope returns in the last descendents of the
: Ocean People from Atlantis. Their mission, their conquest, is to find Atlantis
: and raise her before the evil force that destroyed Atlantis before, destroys
: both worlds for all time. The Conquest of Atlantis."
: -- OCEAN GIRL: THE CONQUEST OF ATLANTIS by Christopher J. Mogel